Comments on: Exploding the limits of linear media http://strange.corante.com/2006/04/30/exploding-the-limits-of-linear-media Picking out patterns in the chaos Wed, 16 May 2012 20:53:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Kevin Anderson http://strange.corante.com/2006/04/30/exploding-the-limits-of-linear-media#comment-1934 Kevin Anderson Wed, 10 May 2006 10:24:59 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2006/04/30/exploding-the-limits-of-linear-media#comment-1934 Sorry for the delay in responding to some good comments. I was busy both broadcasting from WeMedia last week while also trying to keep Suw from grabbing the first media executive she could find and giving them a piece of her mind. Instead she wrote a killer blog post. Much more effective. Pedestrian Scribbler, I know how much time it takes to write a piece, edit a radio interview or package and, even more time consuming, to shoot, edit and voice a TV package. It takes time and skill. However, I would argue that you're making the same mistake that a lot of folks at WeMedia made in painting blogs with too broad a brush. There are a lot of blogs out there written with a great amount of intelligence, knowledge and craft. There is also a lot of dross. In the multichannel world of cable TV, I would argue that it's getting increasingly difficult to find good content. And 24 hour cable news channels? Come on. Really, we in the mainstream media don't have the resources to fill that huge newshole with quality news content. At best, you get a few good packages in heavy rotation. At worst, you get a lot of shite. And one some Cable News Networks, I can't tell the adverts from the news. I find a lot of arguments about quality trotted out by those of us in the mainstream media to be self-serving. They don't acknowledge the constraints we're under. And again, it sets up this false us v. them dichotomy with participatory media that really isn't all that productive. I think increasingly the issue becomes how too find quality content either on air or online. And really I find the internet and social recommendation systems that are developing more effective than electronic program guides. That's another thread for another post. AE. What do I mean by non-linear? Linear is analogue radio or TV. Linear is constrained by time. Nonlinear may not be the correct idea here, but online, we're not constrained by time. Maybe there is a better term. Thanks for the comments. Sorry for the delay in responding to some good comments. I was busy both broadcasting from WeMedia last week while also trying to keep Suw from grabbing the first media executive she could find and giving them a piece of her mind. Instead she wrote a killer blog post. Much more effective.
Pedestrian Scribbler, I know how much time it takes to write a piece, edit a radio interview or package and, even more time consuming, to shoot, edit and voice a TV package. It takes time and skill.
However, I would argue that you’re making the same mistake that a lot of folks at WeMedia made in painting blogs with too broad a brush. There are a lot of blogs out there written with a great amount of intelligence, knowledge and craft. There is also a lot of dross.
In the multichannel world of cable TV, I would argue that it’s getting increasingly difficult to find good content.
And 24 hour cable news channels? Come on. Really, we in the mainstream media don’t have the resources to fill that huge newshole with quality news content. At best, you get a few good packages in heavy rotation. At worst, you get a lot of shite. And one some Cable News Networks, I can’t tell the adverts from the news.
I find a lot of arguments about quality trotted out by those of us in the mainstream media to be self-serving. They don’t acknowledge the constraints we’re under. And again, it sets up this false us v. them dichotomy with participatory media that really isn’t all that productive.
I think increasingly the issue becomes how too find quality content either on air or online. And really I find the internet and social recommendation systems that are developing more effective than electronic program guides. That’s another thread for another post.
AE. What do I mean by non-linear? Linear is analogue radio or TV. Linear is constrained by time. Nonlinear may not be the correct idea here, but online, we’re not constrained by time. Maybe there is a better term.
Thanks for the comments.

]]> By: A.E.Acar http://strange.corante.com/2006/04/30/exploding-the-limits-of-linear-media#comment-1933 A.E.Acar Sat, 06 May 2006 20:48:24 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2006/04/30/exploding-the-limits-of-linear-media#comment-1933 Can you define "nonlinear" in this context? Can you define “nonlinear” in this context?

]]> By: pedestrian scribbler http://strange.corante.com/2006/04/30/exploding-the-limits-of-linear-media#comment-1932 pedestrian scribbler Tue, 02 May 2006 14:45:56 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2006/04/30/exploding-the-limits-of-linear-media#comment-1932 One of the problems I have with bloggers complaining about 'big media' is that they simply don't appreciate the enormous amount of skilled labour that goes into writing a good article or producing a good programme. Because most blogging is still on a level with punk fanzines (don't get me wrong, I like fanzines), there is a sense that you can simply go ahead and publish 'good stuff people want to read' in 30 seconds. The fact is, most people don't want to read that stuff. They want to read well-edited, balanced, reasonable material, not self-opinionated rants. Many bloggers, when don't get to do their rant-spiel in the MSM, complain about 'old fashioned media'. Why not reflect a little on how the rest of the world consumes media, which is to say with an appreciation of the quality found in 'old fashioned media'? One of the problems I have with bloggers complaining about ‘big media’ is that they simply don’t appreciate the enormous amount of skilled labour that goes into writing a good article or producing a good programme. Because most blogging is still on a level with punk fanzines (don’t get me wrong, I like fanzines), there is a sense that you can simply go ahead and publish ‘good stuff people want to read’ in 30 seconds. The fact is, most people don’t want to read that stuff. They want to read well-edited, balanced, reasonable material, not self-opinionated rants.

Many bloggers, when don’t get to do their rant-spiel in the MSM, complain about ‘old fashioned media’. Why not reflect a little on how the rest of the world consumes media, which is to say with an appreciation of the quality found in ‘old fashioned media’?

]]> By: Mike http://strange.corante.com/2006/04/30/exploding-the-limits-of-linear-media#comment-1931 Mike Mon, 01 May 2006 19:21:59 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2006/04/30/exploding-the-limits-of-linear-media#comment-1931 I think there are two issues here. Firstly, there may be a problem with the format of this show. Yes, it is good to be ambitious, but too many voices means less time to develop arguments and you run the risk of descending into anarchy as everyone tries to have their say. Secondly, though, whatever the show, the conversation does not have to end when the curtain comes down. There are arguments that need to be expanded and views that have not been tapped. Blogs offer the people that really matter - the audience - a chance to interact spontaneouly and join the debate. And as Kevin suggests, this is just the beginning! I think there are two issues here. Firstly, there may be a problem with the format of this show. Yes, it is good to be ambitious, but too many voices means less time to develop arguments and you run the risk of descending into anarchy as everyone tries to have their say. Secondly, though, whatever the show, the conversation does not have to end when the curtain comes down. There are arguments that need to be expanded and views that have not been tapped. Blogs offer the people that really matter - the audience - a chance to interact spontaneouly and join the debate. And as Kevin suggests, this is just the beginning!

]]> By: China Law Blog http://strange.corante.com/2006/04/30/exploding-the-limits-of-linear-media#comment-1930 China Law Blog Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:27:26 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2006/04/30/exploding-the-limits-of-linear-media#comment-1930 I completely agree with you on the global conversation aspects of the media and the show, but I disagree somewhat regarding the source of my frustration. Please remember I am an attorney, so I am very much used to being cut off by a higher force: the Judge. What I found frustrating on the show was not getting cut off, it was not knowing when to intervene. There were five or six of us who started out on the show and it seemed someone new would join us every 5-10 minutes. The problem was that I was connected by telephone and I'm guessing everyone else was as well. Without being able to see people, it was very difficult to know when someone else was about to talk. Many times I would start to talk and someone else would speak so I would stop. Other times I talked over someone else. It was this aspect I found frustrating, but I have no solution for it. I actually thought the host did an amazing job of moving the discussion along by asking great questions. I completely agree with you on the global conversation aspects of the media and the show, but I disagree somewhat regarding the source of my frustration. Please remember I am an attorney, so I am very much used to being cut off by a higher force: the Judge. What I found frustrating on the show was not getting cut off, it was not knowing when to intervene. There were five or six of us who started out on the show and it seemed someone new would join us every 5-10 minutes. The problem was that I was connected by telephone and I’m guessing everyone else was as well. Without being able to see people, it was very difficult to know when someone else was about to talk. Many times I would start to talk and someone else would speak so I would stop. Other times I talked over someone else. It was this aspect I found frustrating, but I have no solution for it. I actually thought the host did an amazing job of moving the discussion along by asking great questions.

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