Comments on: Open publishing - Collaborative writing http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing Picking out patterns in the chaos Wed, 16 May 2012 21:03:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Chardon http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing#comment-2458 Chardon Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:12:29 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing#comment-2458 Hi, I'm a twenty year old female author, Chardon Nicholas. I recently published a book and I realize how hard it is to introduce it to the world. I was just greatly amazed by JK Rowling's work and she motivated me to write it. My book can be seen at http://www.lulu.com/content/1153050 Hi,

I’m a twenty year old female author, Chardon Nicholas. I recently published a book and I realize how hard it is to introduce it to the world. I was just greatly amazed by JK Rowling’s work and she motivated me to write it. My book can be seen at http://www.lulu.com/content/1153050

]]> By: Paolo G. Mazzarello http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing#comment-2457 Paolo G. Mazzarello Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:09:42 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing#comment-2457 'A Million Penguins' has been concentrated in an already past season of international literature. Wikis has given a value added to an e-mail by e-mail system, but its proceeding is demanding. Three months after its end does talk about it make sense? Great quoted writers had joined collective fiction to themselves. Each Wiki co-author has widened personal fiction among that of the others. So 'to develope working plot' is hard. It reminds me of narrative feeling of the Kafka's novels, where one can find a very good description of the characters' situation. These characters don't know even well their own plot. However they play a likely role anyway. After Kafka is regular fiction possible yet? ‘A Million Penguins’ has been concentrated in an already past season of international literature. Wikis has given a value added to an e-mail by e-mail system, but its proceeding is demanding. Three months after its end does talk about it make sense? Great quoted writers had joined collective fiction to themselves. Each Wiki co-author has widened personal fiction among that of the others. So ‘to develope working plot’ is hard. It reminds me of narrative feeling of the Kafka’s novels, where one can find a very good description of the characters’ situation. These characters don’t know even well their own plot. However they play a likely role anyway. After Kafka is regular fiction possible yet?

]]> By: Paolo G. Mazzarello http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing#comment-2456 Paolo G. Mazzarello Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:07:56 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing#comment-2456 'A Million Penguins' has been concentrated in an already past season of international literature. Wikis has given a value added to an e-mail by e-mail system, but its proceeding is demanding. Three months after its end does talk about it make sense? Great quoted writers had joined collective fiction to themselves. Each Wiki co-author has widened personal fiction among that of the others. So 'to develope working plot' is hard. It reminds me of narrative feeling of the Kafka's novels, where one can find a very good description of the characters' situation. These characters don't know even well their own plot. However they play a likely role anyway. After Kafka is regular fiction possible yet? ‘A Million Penguins’ has been concentrated in an already past season of international literature. Wikis has given a value added to an e-mail by e-mail system, but its proceeding is demanding. Three months after its end does talk about it make sense? Great quoted writers had joined collective fiction to themselves. Each Wiki co-author has widened personal fiction among that of the others. So ‘to develope working plot’ is hard. It reminds me of narrative feeling of the Kafka’s novels, where one can find a very good description of the characters’ situation. These characters don’t know even well their own plot. However they play a likely role anyway. After Kafka is regular fiction possible yet?

]]> By: Christine Wilks http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing#comment-2455 Christine Wilks Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:45:24 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing#comment-2455 A Million Penguins - as a wiki novel, I agree, it doesn't really work, but I think there could be a lot of potential for well-designed wikistorytelling read/write experiences. As a novel, the wiki project was bound to fail right from the start because, by definition, a novel is linear, whereas the essential nature of a wiki is non-linear (you could almost say anti-linear) - it's designed to be that way. I think the problem is less to do with many imaginations at work on a story, pulling it in different directions (although I agree with Suw's RPG analogy, a smaller more cohesive group might work better) and more to do with the overall design and 'rules' of the creative production environment. It's early days, and it'll take a lot more experimental 'failures' first, but I think it's a matter of finding the right combination of social software with appropriate inbuilt ground rules, creative focus/foci and developing a non-linear reading/writing culture. What a Million Penguins shows is that there are plenty of people interested in writing/reading collaborative fiction, but the best form and conditions for it haven't evolved yet. A Million Penguins - as a wiki novel, I agree, it doesn’t really work, but I think there could be a lot of potential for well-designed wikistorytelling read/write experiences.

As a novel, the wiki project was bound to fail right from the start because, by definition, a novel is linear, whereas the essential nature of a wiki is non-linear (you could almost say anti-linear) - it’s designed to be that way.

I think the problem is less to do with many imaginations at work on a story, pulling it in different directions (although I agree with Suw’s RPG analogy, a smaller more cohesive group might work better) and more to do with the overall design and ‘rules’ of the creative production environment. It’s early days, and it’ll take a lot more experimental ‘failures’ first, but I think it’s a matter of finding the right combination of social software with appropriate inbuilt ground rules, creative focus/foci and developing a non-linear reading/writing culture. What a Million Penguins shows is that there are plenty of people interested in writing/reading collaborative fiction, but the best form and conditions for it haven’t evolved yet.

]]> By: Chris Meade http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing#comment-2454 Chris Meade Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:33:58 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing#comment-2454 The wiki novel gets one thinking about the idea of a book that's different every time you look at it - but I suppose I hope that new genres will emerge inspired by these possibilities. A wikinovel doesnt quite work, but I'm sure there's a kind of wikistorytelling that absuolutely will. How much really compelling fiction have you come across online and what developments do you find most inteesting? I;d love to have URLs for them too! The wiki novel gets one thinking about the idea of a book that’s different every time you look at it - but I suppose I hope that new genres will emerge inspired by these possibilities. A wikinovel doesnt quite work, but I’m sure there’s a kind of wikistorytelling that absuolutely will. How much really compelling fiction have you come across online and what developments do you find most inteesting? I;d love to have URLs for them too!

]]> By: joanna howard http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing#comment-2453 joanna howard Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:21:50 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing#comment-2453 From my experience of the Penguin wiki, it has shown all the advantages and disadvantages of open groups, virtual or real. I have some experience of working with groups in a self-development situation, and the boundary-testing is similar, and the need for some kind of framework. We have the ability to block totally disruptive or offensive users, which we have evoked from time to time. In the end, the daft contributors generally show themselves up. It's been (for me at least), more of an experiment in online large scale group interaction than in novel-writing, although that too has had its high points. From my experience of the Penguin wiki, it has shown all the advantages and disadvantages of open groups, virtual or real.

I have some experience of working with groups in a self-development situation, and the boundary-testing is similar, and the need for some kind of framework.

We have the ability to block totally disruptive or offensive users, which we have evoked from time to time. In the end, the daft contributors generally show themselves up. It’s been (for me at least), more of an experiment in online large scale group interaction than in novel-writing, although that too has had its high points.

]]> By: Lloyd http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing#comment-2452 Lloyd Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:23:07 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2007/02/26/open-publishing-collaborative-writing#comment-2452 Your RPG note reminds me (and oh how I wish it hadn't) of the online version of Mornington Crescent http://parslow.com/mornington/ a serious time-gobbler, but great fun. Your RPG note reminds me (and oh how I wish it hadn’t) of the online version of Mornington Crescent

http://parslow.com/mornington/

a serious time-gobbler, but great fun.

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