Comments on: Overcoming journalists’ sense of entitlement to an audience http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience Picking out patterns in the chaos Tue, 22 May 2012 21:19:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: More newspaper editors should live on streets like ours | Media Money http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-6224 More newspaper editors should live on streets like ours | Media Money Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:33:25 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-6224 [...] few weeks ago, Kevin Anderson expanded on this theme, citing the “institutional belief” among journalists that “if we work for a major publication or [...] [...] few weeks ago, Kevin Anderson expanded on this theme, citing the “institutional belief” among journalists that “if we work for a major publication or [...]

]]> By: Chris Nee http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5971 Chris Nee Thu, 21 May 2009 09:43:21 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5971 To slightly ignore the meat of your story, I find your first point about blogging having self-created a barrier to entry to be a valid one. We all assume blogging is free and anyone can do it. But the fact is it's bloody hard work, as I've discovered since turning my football blog into a real player rather than a personal scrapbook. It's almost like a second job, and were I subject to different circumstances it simply wouldn't be sustainable. To slightly ignore the meat of your story, I find your first point about blogging having self-created a barrier to entry to be a valid one.

We all assume blogging is free and anyone can do it. But the fact is it’s bloody hard work, as I’ve discovered since turning my football blog into a real player rather than a personal scrapbook. It’s almost like a second job, and were I subject to different circumstances it simply wouldn’t be sustainable.

]]> By: WEidman http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5964 WEidman Wed, 20 May 2009 18:28:47 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5964 The fact the most people do not have the cognitive ability to distinguish between factual information and opinion makes me not approve of using blogs and, websites like twitter, as "news" sites. Journalism will never die out because most people have a need for tangibility, they like to be able to pick up the news paper that they paid for and sit down and read it. This trend of pixels over paper may go on a little run, but will not last very long. So no worries, you will as a journalist have a job in the future. P.S. the fact the you say you don't like commentaries and you're writing one, is quite ironic. The fact the most people do not have the cognitive ability to distinguish between factual information and opinion makes me not approve of using blogs and, websites like twitter, as “news” sites. Journalism will never die out because most people have a need for tangibility, they like to be able to pick up the news paper that they paid for and sit down and read it. This trend of pixels over paper may go on a little run, but will not last very long. So no worries, you will as a journalist have a job in the future.

P.S. the fact the you say you don’t like commentaries and you’re writing one, is quite ironic.

]]> By: CED http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5963 CED Wed, 20 May 2009 18:20:48 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5963 I agree that there is an abundance of information and stories for the general public to view and form their opinions over. It is overwhelming for people to try and sort through the stories to get the right facts. But if you find a reliable source, chances are you are going to stick with that person and put your trust in their stories. Those of you journalists that have an established audience now probably would not have to worry about losing them. I agree that there is an abundance of information and stories for the general public to view and form their opinions over. It is overwhelming for people to try and sort through the stories to get the right facts. But if you find a reliable source, chances are you are going to stick with that person and put your trust in their stories. Those of you journalists that have an established audience now probably would not have to worry about losing them.

]]> By: jenny lee http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5962 jenny lee Wed, 20 May 2009 18:19:26 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5962 While I do not believe journalists are necessarily "entitled" to an audience, I think the general public needs to be a little more attentive to where they receive their news from - professional journalists do deserve to be a primary source of information, just as the public deserves to hear the facts rather than a random blogger's opinion. It is unfortunate that so many people count on unreliable (yet convenient) sources of information, but I don't think this will change until the majority of people learn to value facts over infotainment. While I do not believe journalists are necessarily “entitled” to an audience, I think the general public needs to be a little more attentive to where they receive their news from - professional journalists do deserve to be a primary source of information, just as the public deserves to hear the facts rather than a random blogger’s opinion. It is unfortunate that so many people count on unreliable (yet convenient) sources of information, but I don’t think this will change until the majority of people learn to value facts over infotainment.

]]> By: Blah http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5961 Blah Wed, 20 May 2009 18:14:15 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5961 This makes a lot of sense. With the never ending updated information on the internet, a news story can be posted before it even hits the evening news. Newspapers have become so out of date due to the fact that information is so readily found on the internet. No one wants to wait for the newspaper in the morning and it is sad. Any boob can post a news story on the internet, but real interesting in depth stories can be shown in the paper. Internet users want quick information and do not want to spend the time reading an entire article. Our society has moved away from the days of sitting on the couch reading a newspaper and has found that a quick little post will suffice their time. This makes a lot of sense. With the never ending updated information on the internet, a news story can be posted before it even hits the evening news. Newspapers have become so out of date due to the fact that information is so readily found on the internet. No one wants to wait for the newspaper in the morning and it is sad. Any boob can post a news story on the internet, but real interesting in depth stories can be shown in the paper. Internet users want quick information and do not want to spend the time reading an entire article. Our society has moved away from the days of sitting on the couch reading a newspaper and has found that a quick little post will suffice their time.

]]> By: Buck http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5960 Buck Wed, 20 May 2009 18:12:39 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5960 Indeed we do live in an age where the information is reported on extremely fast. In order for the journalist to have a purpose in life, they are going to need to find information that is new and interesting. Freelance Journalist have an advantage because they can use the internet and get the information or quicker than that of a journalist who writes for a newspaper. I think that the public journalist is going to become less and less relevant as the years go by. The internet will just keep getting faster and more widely used. Whether i like that or not, that is how it is going to go down unfortunately. Indeed we do live in an age where the information is reported on extremely fast. In order for the journalist to have a purpose in life, they are going to need to find information that is new and interesting. Freelance Journalist have an advantage because they can use the internet and get the information or quicker than that of a journalist who writes for a newspaper. I think that the public journalist is going to become less and less relevant as the years go by. The internet will just keep getting faster and more widely used. Whether i like that or not, that is how it is going to go down unfortunately.

]]> By: Steve Jackson http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5956 Steve Jackson Wed, 20 May 2009 13:02:36 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5956 Currently in talks with an NGO who I fear don't really "get it". They have blogs, they have a YouTube account, they have a Twitter feed - but what they don't have is the slog. They thinking that tweeting once a week will be enough. They think it's okay that they host a handful of blogs on their site and yet those blog writers aren't really bloggers because they don't engage with anyone. Their YouTube films are uploaded but aren't promoted or embedded elsewhere because people don't know they exist. I've been blogging long enough now to know that SEO is all very well but it's the slog that is important. You have to engage you have to find your niche readers. Blogs have made it easier to have your say but we're all going to have to work harder to ensure that people actually read what we write. Currently in talks with an NGO who I fear don’t really “get it”. They have blogs, they have a YouTube account, they have a Twitter feed - but what they don’t have is the slog.

They thinking that tweeting once a week will be enough. They think it’s okay that they host a handful of blogs on their site and yet those blog writers aren’t really bloggers because they don’t engage with anyone.

Their YouTube films are uploaded but aren’t promoted or embedded elsewhere because people don’t know they exist.

I’ve been blogging long enough now to know that SEO is all very well but it’s the slog that is important. You have to engage you have to find your niche readers. Blogs have made it easier to have your say but we’re all going to have to work harder to ensure that people actually read what we write.

]]> By: Strange Attractor: Journalists and ‘audience entitlement’ | Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5952 Strange Attractor: Journalists and ‘audience entitlement’ | Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog Wed, 20 May 2009 08:41:53 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5952 [...] Full post at this link… [...] [...] Full post at this link… [...]

]]> By: Adam http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5943 Adam Tue, 19 May 2009 17:36:52 +0000 http://strange.corante.com/2009/05/19/overcoming-journalists-sense-of-entitlement-to-an-audience#comment-5943 @Kevin I've added some thoughts <a href="http://www.onemanandhisblog.com/archives/2009/05/entitlement_page_views_and_content_atomi.html" rel="nofollow">over on my own blog</a>. I suspect that the fact that you, Angus and myself are all highlighting different potential causes of this syndrome suggests that it's actually quite a complex issue, which is another reason it's both deep-rooted and difficult to deal with. @Kevin I’ve added some thoughts over on my own blog.

I suspect that the fact that you, Angus and myself are all highlighting different potential causes of this syndrome suggests that it’s actually quite a complex issue, which is another reason it’s both deep-rooted and difficult to deal with.

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