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	<description>Picking out patterns in the chaos</description>
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		<title>By: Suw Charman-Anderson</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/07/01/myths-of-age-and-digital-capability#comment-6894</link>
		<dc:creator>Suw Charman-Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Scott! I'll fix that. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Scott! I&#8217;ll fix that. <img src='http://strange.corante.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Newson</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/07/01/myths-of-age-and-digital-capability#comment-6893</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Newson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Their motivations for going online *are the similar as* other generations: "

Awkward. In quote [16]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Their motivations for going online *are the similar as* other generations: &#8221;</p>
<p>Awkward. In quote [16]</p>
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		<title>By: Strange Attractor &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The plural of anecdote is not data</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/07/01/myths-of-age-and-digital-capability#comment-6821</link>
		<dc:creator>Strange Attractor &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The plural of anecdote is not data</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] story also feeds into the concept of the &#8216;digital native&#8217; which, as I&#8217;ve blogged before, is a very poor way to talk about a very diverse section of the population. But because this report [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] story also feeds into the concept of the &#8216;digital native&#8217; which, as I&#8217;ve blogged before, is a very poor way to talk about a very diverse section of the population. But because this report [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Have we got it wrong about the soon to be minted CAs? &#124; AccMan</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/07/01/myths-of-age-and-digital-capability#comment-6729</link>
		<dc:creator>Have we got it wrong about the soon to be minted CAs? &#124; AccMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Charman-Anderson has written a very well researched piece that discusses the attitudes towards internet technologies among both young and old: There are two [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Charman-Anderson has written a very well researched piece that discusses the attitudes towards internet technologies among both young and old: There are two [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Frank</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/07/01/myths-of-age-and-digital-capability#comment-6646</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Suw - Time to go back to European Dark Blogs Case Study #1. The users in that case study were much closer to Silver Surfer than Digital Natives - but they understood their business process and how perfectly a set of intranet based blogs met their pain points. That's all the motivation and understanding any old dog or new dog needs to pickup a new trick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Suw - Time to go back to European Dark Blogs Case Study #1. The users in that case study were much closer to Silver Surfer than Digital Natives - but they understood their business process and how perfectly a set of intranet based blogs met their pain points. That&#8217;s all the motivation and understanding any old dog or new dog needs to pickup a new trick!</p>
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		<title>By: Suw Charman-Anderson</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/07/01/myths-of-age-and-digital-capability#comment-6617</link>
		<dc:creator>Suw Charman-Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you so much, David! Those will probably be the best-cited bits now!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you so much, David! Those will probably be the best-cited bits now!!</p>
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		<title>By: David Clay</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, should have realised that's what you meant. In this case I think the citation in Harvard style would be: 

Williams, P. and Rowlands, I. (2007) Information behaviour of the researcher of the future: work package II.
London, CIBER-UCL. Cited in: Selwyn, Neil (2009) The digital native – myth and reality. Paper presented to the CILIP London seminar series. London: London Knowledge Lab. Available from: http://www.scribd.com/doc/9775892/Digital-Native, 

Although I'm sure there are other ways.

The citation for (2), (5) and (9) is 

Bennett, S.,  Maton K and Kervin, L (2008) The 'digital natives' debate: A critical review of the evidence. British Journal of Educational Technology, 39 (5), pp 775 - 786. Available from: http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-8535.2007.00793.x (paid version)

The quotes from (2) are on p.776, and (9) on p. 777

The citation for (6) is probably:

Golding, P (2000) Forthcoming Features: Information and Communications Technologies and the Sociology of the Future. Sociology, 34 (1), pp. 165-184. Available from: http://dx.doi.org/10.1177/S0038038500000110 (behing a pay wall)

Hope this helps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, should have realised that&#8217;s what you meant. In this case I think the citation in Harvard style would be: </p>
<p>Williams, P. and Rowlands, I. (2007) Information behaviour of the researcher of the future: work package II.<br />
London, CIBER-UCL. Cited in: Selwyn, Neil (2009) The digital native – myth and reality. Paper presented to the CILIP London seminar series. London: London Knowledge Lab. Available from: <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/9775892/Digital-Native" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/9775892/Digital-Native</a>, </p>
<p>Although I&#8217;m sure there are other ways.</p>
<p>The citation for (2), (5) and (9) is </p>
<p>Bennett, S.,  Maton K and Kervin, L (2008) The &#8216;digital natives&#8217; debate: A critical review of the evidence. British Journal of Educational Technology, 39 (5), pp 775 - 786. Available from: <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-8535.2007.00793.x" rel="nofollow">http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-8535.2007.00793.x</a> (paid version)</p>
<p>The quotes from (2) are on p.776, and (9) on p. 777</p>
<p>The citation for (6) is probably:</p>
<p>Golding, P (2000) Forthcoming Features: Information and Communications Technologies and the Sociology of the Future. Sociology, 34 (1), pp. 165-184. Available from: <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1177/S0038038500000110" rel="nofollow">http://dx.doi.org/10.1177/S0038038500000110</a> (behing a pay wall)</p>
<p>Hope this helps</p>
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		<title>By: Suw Charman-Anderson</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/07/01/myths-of-age-and-digital-capability#comment-6603</link>
		<dc:creator>Suw Charman-Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David! Yes, I have Selwyn printed out in front of me, and wasn't really sure about how to cite someone who's citing someone else. God, I am so rusty on this whole references thing! 

Thanks so much for the help though - I very much appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David! Yes, I have Selwyn printed out in front of me, and wasn&#8217;t really sure about how to cite someone who&#8217;s citing someone else. God, I am so rusty on this whole references thing! </p>
<p>Thanks so much for the help though - I very much appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Clay</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/07/01/myths-of-age-and-digital-capability#comment-6601</link>
		<dc:creator>David Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some of the citations you  are looking for are:

(3) Selwyn, Neil (2009) The digital native – myth and reality. Paper presented to the CILIP  London seminar series. London: London Knowledge Lab. Available from: http://www.scribd.com/doc/9775892/Digital-Native, 

(4) Williams, P. and Rowlands, I.  (2007) Information behaviour of the researcher of the future: work package II.
London, CIBER-UCL. Available from: http://www.ucl.ac.uk/infostudies/research/ciber/downloads/GG%20Work%20Package%20II.pdf

The sentence you quote isn't in this document, its in (3) with the work by Williams and Rowlands cited as evidence of the point being made

(10) Palfrey, John and Gasser, Urs (2008) Born digital : understanding the first generation of digital natives. New York: Basic Books. 

(12) OfCom (2007) Communicatons market report. London: OfCom. p. 308. Available from: http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/cm/cmr07/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some of the citations you  are looking for are:</p>
<p>(3) Selwyn, Neil (2009) The digital native – myth and reality. Paper presented to the CILIP  London seminar series. London: London Knowledge Lab. Available from: <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/9775892/Digital-Native" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/9775892/Digital-Native</a>, </p>
<p>(4) Williams, P. and Rowlands, I.  (2007) Information behaviour of the researcher of the future: work package II.<br />
London, CIBER-UCL. Available from: <a href="http://www.ucl.ac.uk/infostudies/research/ciber/downloads/GG%20Work%20Package%20II.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ucl.ac.uk/infostudies/research/ciber/downloads/GG%20Work%20Package%20II.pdf</a></p>
<p>The sentence you quote isn&#8217;t in this document, its in (3) with the work by Williams and Rowlands cited as evidence of the point being made</p>
<p>(10) Palfrey, John and Gasser, Urs (2008) Born digital : understanding the first generation of digital natives. New York: Basic Books. </p>
<p>(12) OfCom (2007) Communicatons market report. London: OfCom. p. 308. Available from: <a href="http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/cm/cmr07/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/cm/cmr07/</a></p>
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