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		<title>Comment on Should we provide incentives for engagement with social technology? by Gordon Ross</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/10/01/should-we-provide-incentives-for-engagement-with-social-technology#comment-7762</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit late to the commenting on this one Suw, but a great investigation about intrinsic/extrinsic motivation and how the model of "do x and you'll get y" might work in the short term but has long term repercussions is covered in Alfie Kohn's work &lt;a href="http://www.alfiekohn.org/books/pbr.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Punished by Rewards&lt;/a&gt;. And Dan Pink gathered further attention on the matter back in September at TED when he spoke about &#60;a href="&lt;a href="http://blog.ted.com/2009/08/the_surprising.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;"&#62;motivation and the science behind it&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit late to the commenting on this one Suw, but a great investigation about intrinsic/extrinsic motivation and how the model of &#8220;do x and you&#8217;ll get y&#8221; might work in the short term but has long term repercussions is covered in Alfie Kohn&#8217;s work <a href="http://www.alfiekohn.org/books/pbr.htm" rel="nofollow">Punished by Rewards</a>. And Dan Pink gathered further attention on the matter back in September at TED when he spoke about &lt;a href=&#8221;<a href="http://blog.ted.com/2009/08/the_surprising.php" rel="nofollow">&#8220;&gt;motivation and the science behind it</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The curse of social media jargon by Suw Charman-Anderson</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/10/09/the-curse-of-social-media-jargon#comment-7752</link>
		<dc:creator>Suw Charman-Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl, totally agree with you about corporate speak, and why it evolves. I think sometimes that one reason I'm not more successful is that I talk in plain English, and that makes people who are used to hearing jargon undervalue what I do. There really is a push towards more jargon and more bs, and that's a shame. I'm never going to start talking crap just to impress a new client, though, so I guess I'm doomed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl, totally agree with you about corporate speak, and why it evolves. I think sometimes that one reason I&#8217;m not more successful is that I talk in plain English, and that makes people who are used to hearing jargon undervalue what I do. There really is a push towards more jargon and more bs, and that&#8217;s a shame. I&#8217;m never going to start talking crap just to impress a new client, though, so I guess I&#8217;m doomed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The curse of social media jargon by Suw Charman-Anderson</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/10/09/the-curse-of-social-media-jargon#comment-7751</link>
		<dc:creator>Suw Charman-Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bree, 

I struggled to figure out what the very worst term is, but then I realised that even new, jargony terms by themselves, in the right context, can be meaningful so it's hard to single one out for special attention. But this post illustrates what I mean quite beautifully:

http://brandautopsy.typepad.com/brandautopsy/2009/10/sbd_flaw.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bree, </p>
<p>I struggled to figure out what the very worst term is, but then I realised that even new, jargony terms by themselves, in the right context, can be meaningful so it&#8217;s hard to single one out for special attention. But this post illustrates what I mean quite beautifully:</p>
<p><a href="http://brandautopsy.typepad.com/brandautopsy/2009/10/sbd_flaw.html" rel="nofollow">http://brandautopsy.typepad.com/brandautopsy/2009/10/sbd_flaw.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Recommendations (version 2) by cyberdoyle</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/07/07/recommendations-version-2#comment-7747</link>
		<dc:creator>cyberdoyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn't meaning you personally was missing the point, just that any report advising anyone about the uses of social media has to contain a disclaimer reminding people that it will never be mainstream until the infrastructure is in place to support it. Your report is working to get the civil infrastructure and training in place. My goal is to get the physical network in place to support you. We both work to the same goal. Unfortunately your cause has many champions, mine doesn't, so I do the best I can. Like a candle in the wind. Or as they like to call the JGDI crews, - a yoghurt knitter. I don't mind repeatedly commenting on blogs to make this point. I have no budget to keep within, seeing as I don't get paid for any of my work, I am a volunteer for the people of digitalbritain. ;) 
Point made, kudos for not deleting my rant from your excellent report on using social media.
chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t meaning you personally was missing the point, just that any report advising anyone about the uses of social media has to contain a disclaimer reminding people that it will never be mainstream until the infrastructure is in place to support it. Your report is working to get the civil infrastructure and training in place. My goal is to get the physical network in place to support you. We both work to the same goal. Unfortunately your cause has many champions, mine doesn&#8217;t, so I do the best I can. Like a candle in the wind. Or as they like to call the JGDI crews, - a yoghurt knitter. I don&#8217;t mind repeatedly commenting on blogs to make this point. I have no budget to keep within, seeing as I don&#8217;t get paid for any of my work, I am a volunteer for the people of digitalbritain. <img src='http://strange.corante.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Point made, kudos for not deleting my rant from your excellent report on using social media.<br />
chris</p>
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		<title>Comment on Recommendations (version 2) by Suw Charman-Anderson</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/07/07/recommendations-version-2#comment-7740</link>
		<dc:creator>Suw Charman-Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I'm not missing the point at all, as the report that this post was a part of was not to look at existing infrastructure, but to look at the use of and attitudes towards social media by civil society associations. Nor could I have included a section on infrastructure given the time and budget constraints. It was hard enough to get the essentials done.

That doesn't mean I don't agree that broadband access is important. Always on internet radically changed my usage patterns, and I'm sure that a study would find that is not an uncommon story. And of course I agree that we need to radically improve broadband access. I would love to write a report that ties all these issues together - but this report wasn't it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I&#8217;m not missing the point at all, as the report that this post was a part of was not to look at existing infrastructure, but to look at the use of and attitudes towards social media by civil society associations. Nor could I have included a section on infrastructure given the time and budget constraints. It was hard enough to get the essentials done.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t agree that broadband access is important. Always on internet radically changed my usage patterns, and I&#8217;m sure that a study would find that is not an uncommon story. And of course I agree that we need to radically improve broadband access. I would love to write a report that ties all these issues together - but this report wasn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Recommendations (version 2) by cyberdoyle</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/07/07/recommendations-version-2#comment-7739</link>
		<dc:creator>cyberdoyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>think your comments on social media are ok, but you are missing the point. The reason people aren't using it is because the general state of broadband in the uk is so poor they lose heart and don't engage. 90% of the uk land mass (cbn) can't get a good enough connection. Urban people in the other 10% choose cheap or free services. To operate a cheap service ISPS use high contention ratios, 200:1 is commonplace. To stream iPlayer you use half a meg. On an 'upto 8meg' feed 16 can stream. the other hundreds can't even load web pages.
This means people don't learn how to use twitter or fb or any other social media. It takes them all their time to read email and surf - there are very few people happy with their connection, but they don't understand why it doesn't work. It doesn't work because we are trying to run next gen apps through 1st gen victorian copper phone network and calling it 'broadband'. It isn't. It is narrowband. We need fibre to every home. On ubiquitous affordable broadband. You can't expect this brave new world to happen without the infrastructure. This bit is missing from your post.
chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>think your comments on social media are ok, but you are missing the point. The reason people aren&#8217;t using it is because the general state of broadband in the uk is so poor they lose heart and don&#8217;t engage. 90% of the uk land mass (cbn) can&#8217;t get a good enough connection. Urban people in the other 10% choose cheap or free services. To operate a cheap service ISPS use high contention ratios, 200:1 is commonplace. To stream iPlayer you use half a meg. On an &#8216;upto 8meg&#8217; feed 16 can stream. the other hundreds can&#8217;t even load web pages.<br />
This means people don&#8217;t learn how to use twitter or fb or any other social media. It takes them all their time to read email and surf - there are very few people happy with their connection, but they don&#8217;t understand why it doesn&#8217;t work. It doesn&#8217;t work because we are trying to run next gen apps through 1st gen victorian copper phone network and calling it &#8216;broadband&#8217;. It isn&#8217;t. It is narrowband. We need fibre to every home. On ubiquitous affordable broadband. You can&#8217;t expect this brave new world to happen without the infrastructure. This bit is missing from your post.<br />
chris.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Social media guru by Suw</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/10/19/social-media-guru#comment-7691</link>
		<dc:creator>Suw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly we need to have a moralectomy. Plus I should probably do more client meetings in trackie bottoms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly we need to have a moralectomy. Plus I should probably do more client meetings in trackie bottoms.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Social media guru by Kevin Anderson</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/10/19/social-media-guru#comment-7690</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I now see the error of my ways. Had I just been an unscrupulous, snake-oil salesman with no morals, I would be raking in the dough banker-style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I now see the error of my ways. Had I just been an unscrupulous, snake-oil salesman with no morals, I would be raking in the dough banker-style.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The curse of social media jargon by bree</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/10/09/the-curse-of-social-media-jargon#comment-7689</link>
		<dc:creator>bree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I've just come across this post - I am curious, what do think is the most over used social media jargon term?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;ve just come across this post - I am curious, what do think is the most over used social media jargon term?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The plural of anecdote is not data by Anecdote</title>
		<link>http://strange.corante.com/2009/07/13/the-plural-of-anecdote-is-not-data#comment-7650</link>
		<dc:creator>Anecdote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just came across this little ditty. I write anecdotal articles for my weekly blog and I wouldn't dream of calling my observations "data" or "research". I'm not even certain how helpful this report will be. It seems to be a decent indicator of how teens view media based on research already done - not much else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just came across this little ditty. I write anecdotal articles for my weekly blog and I wouldn&#8217;t dream of calling my observations &#8220;data&#8221; or &#8220;research&#8221;. I&#8217;m not even certain how helpful this report will be. It seems to be a decent indicator of how teens view media based on research already done - not much else.</p>
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